Lige et sidste ord fra mig, og det er til Perter Gregand ) ,
"Mødes og tale sammen" , det lydder som en joke :roll: , du var den første jeg mødte i Odense til GM, og ville dårlig hilse, så jeg tror ikke det bliver til noget for mit vedkommende.

Skulle vi ikke bare tage og stoppe diskutionen her, inden det eskalerer...

MD har jo givet til kende hvad den oprindelige aftale bestod i, misforståelse eller ej, EOD (End-Of-Discussion)

Hvorfor må man ikke diskutere ? Hvis det løber over i mudderkastning, så kan jeg forstå tråden lukker, men hvis den holdes på et sobert og kunstruktivt niveau, så kan jeg ikke se hvorfor tråden skal lukkes !

Fora er vel til for at man bl.a kan diskutere !?

Jep, men diskutionen er MEGET OT nu...

Hvis i fortsat vil diskutere vidre, kan jeg godt splitte tråden, og ligge den ny tråd i Snik-Snak gruppen i stedet...

Det er op til dig som forum moderator..

Det er hermed gjort...

Jeg erfarer at webmaster har overført min post til Michael Davis til OT. Jeg prøver lige at poste igen:

Hi Michael. My question is directed to you. I wan't to ask you if there could be any explanation to why Peter and Thomas, two reasonable guys, think that you have passed the rights over to them when you say you have never made such an agreement? It makes no sense to me that they say, the locomotive is theirs when people actually can proove them wrong. People has mistaken them for being MSTS/TRS dictators when they want to protect their stuff, the only thing they ask for

Kan ikke rigtig se hvorfor det her er OT? Kan vi ikke snakke venligt om det, BC? Det har trods alt noget med Michael Davis og hans MY'ere at gøre?

The funny part here is that it never where theirs ... that's the hole point id like to see the original agreement before you jump on Michael Davies. I dont se WHY he should prove himself here HE made the models HE have never restricted any of his work before. Let Peter and Thomas come with "proof" !!!

lets just forget this whole misery. Mistake or no mistake the trains are free again for all to use as they see fit as long as they are kept free...just like they where intended to be in the first place

EOD (End of discussion) PLEASE we dont need this argument any longer

Sorry, my bad...Det var en fejl 40...Den skulle heller ikke have været imellem de flyttede...Håber du overlever

JBA,

The agreement was simple, MSDK was the only site that could 'host' the MY.

This was done so that all the MY were kept in one place for everyone to collect for free, the idea was to promote MDSK as the center for the locomotives.

To help MSDK do this l gave them the master files so that they could make repaints and modifications for new MY locomotives for there site.

If MSDK has closed then they no longer are the hosts for the locomotives, the locomotives should now be passed to another site or many other sites so that people can collect them for free.

The important word is MSDK were the "host", not the "owners", a simple misunderstanding between two languages !.

All this was agreed 2 - 1/2 years ago, a very long time ago.

The misunderstanding is being exagerated by internal politics within MSDK, there has always been politics in MSDK....this is the business of MSDK and is NOT the business of the community.

The community arguing is making more politics for MSDK and the issue is going round and round.

There is one final point, IF ??, Peter or Thomas has repainted the MY, then they have the choice to share or not to share those models and "only" those models, it is there repaint and there choice, if somebody else painted the MY and it was "hosted" by MSDK then MSDK now have to release that model, they cannot store other peoples work behind closed doors.

It does not matter if this is tog-sim.dk or trainsim.com or flightsim.com or simouthouse or any other forum, arguments will always happen, there is always the good guy and always the bad guy. The forum is like a pack of wolves, if they smell blood they will all attack, even when the bad guy might not be guilty, it is a disgusting habit of forum person's world wide.

It is a fact of life and it will not go away, take care about what you write.

Kindest regards

Michael

Eg, Jeg kan simpelthen ikke forstå hvorfor du bliver ved med at sige vi skal komme med beviser.. Der er jo ligsom blevet gjort klart at Claus, Peter og så Jeg misfortolkede den mail MD sendte til os. Vi har sagt undskyld, og jeg kan derfor ikke se hvorfor DU bliver ved med at køre i den samme rille ?!

Michael,

As one off the moderators of this forum I agree with you!

It makes no sense to continue those attacks on each other and I hope that we can stop here everyone!

I don't mind discussions, that's whats forums are fore, but these personal attacks are no good for anyone and will just give us all a bad taste in our mouth!

So let's stop here and go back to the peacefull forum it use to be and let the past behind us and start all over again!

As you mentioned Michael, it's a mistake from the DSB DT, but we all make mistakes sometimes and nobody is perfekt!

I hope that you haven't seen my question as an attack, Michael. I was just curious and plane and simple wanted to ask in the kindest way as possible. It was not as Eg Misunderstood my question, that you, Michael, had to defend yourself in any way. I hope I haven't pissed all of you off. He he
But thank you for the explanation. I Understand the situation much better now.

Det er bare iorden BC. Der skete jo ikke det helt store ved at du kom til at flytte den.

JBA,

Not at all, l have been around forums long enough to spot an attack...even in a different language, translator programs are not that good but good enough to get the feel for what someone is saying .

I am happy that the misunderstanding has been cleared up .

Kindest regards

Michael